Whether it's from the Treal TV DVDs, his Tonka Boyz album with Husalah, his recent Tweaker Muzik with DB The General or his dope features, chances are you know who B-Luv is. Me and Nyquil of Cobraswag recently had the chance to meet up with B-Luv in Vallejo and talk to him about everything from fans stealing his hat to how he met Mac Dre:So you just got back from touring with Roach Gigz? How did that come together?Roach just hit me, he reached out to me. He was like 'I grew up watching you and Dre' and that's how I got in
the "Wasabi" video. From there, I just kind of felt him, like 'bro I like how you get down,' he not funny-ass, he real. I live in L.A., but I drive back and forth all the time, like I'm still here because all my folks and family is here, so I'm always out here. I was in L.A. and they called me like 'you out here? Bro we got a show in Hollywood.' I was like 'what? They fuckin' with us like that?' So I came up there, just to support him and it was a cool show, there was a good turnout and I was surprised. There ain't a lot of Bay Area artists that can go to L.A. and get a turnout. Some of the biggest people out here would get five people out there. Roach had a good turnout there and Roach said 'bro we going to San Diego if you want to come, we can do a song together or something.' And I was like 'For real? Let's do it.' So he brought me out in San Diego and the reaction was big, they was happy, like 'GREAT SURPRISE, GLAD YOU CAME.' I appreciated it, but I didn't expect that. After that it was like 'bro you got to come along.'
So we went to Oregon and Washington and just got back on Monday. It's been cool, I fuck with Roach, I like his movement. Dre was a big influence on him and that's where we connect at. That common little bond right there ignites the whole movement.
L to R: Roach Gigz, B-Luv and DB The General
So are you still going to be doing shows with Roach Gigz for a while?I'm going to do it until the end of the
Bugged Out tour and then me and Hus got a few shows we putting together. Then just working on the next one. I've really got the next album done, but I'm just seeing which one I want to put out first. If I want to to wait for Hus to put out his album and then put out
Tonka Boyz 2 or do I want to do mine, like I have a lost tapes album, with hella old stuff like with Pretty Black. Some stuff that I know people would love to hear that I've never put out. I'm probably just going to leak it for free on the internet. Then after that, put out my solo album. My solo is done. It's kind of on the laid back tip, like you know
"Won't Slide"? Kind of like that tempo; laid back and chillin. Yeah bro, I've been workin. I've got a lot of music that hasn't been heard that I'm eager to get out. I'm just antsy right now, I'm ready to get it out and go.
What's the deal with Husalah not dropping an album yet?He's like a perfectionist. His expectations are so high, that he might have 45 hits and think all of them are weak. All his other albums someone else put out, so this is going to be his first that
he is putting out. Between you and me, I ain't gonna lie, he got some shit. I feel like I understand why he's waiting so long. Because the shit he's got, he's got some timeless shit, he ain't got no trendy shit like 'ok this is what's going on right now, I've got to go ahead and release this.' When it comes out, it's going to go. I know that, just from being around music for a long time I kinda have a feeling for like, this is going to do this or that (in sales/popularity). I'm supporting him all the way.
From being around him so long I was just like, 'okay he kinda taking long with that.' I know why he's been taking so long, but the fans don't know, they like 'what the fuck is going on man?' I'm like, he working on it, but they're like 'just drop it. Fuck it!' It is what it is. It's coming, believe it or not.
Husalah and B-Luv
How come you haven't put out any solo albums? All your albums has been with someone else so far.Honestly, the one with DB was spontaneous. We was at the house one day chillin and I had the studio in the trunk and I was like 'I got some beats...' and he was like *in his best impression of DB The General* 'yeah motherfucker, whatchu got?' And we got in there and did the whole
Tweaker Muzik in one day.
Are you serious?Yeah. DB kind of woke me up. We did that shit fast because it was fun. It's different when it's fun, we just bounced off each other. He'd do something and I'd do a hook or I'd do something and he'd do the hook and we just laid it down.
Yeah it sounds like you guys had fun putting it together.Yeah we had fun. So yeah we did that in one day and the song with Hus I had did that the previous week and I just put that together with it and I was like 'fuck it let me give them something to have. Let them knock it.' That's why I did that. But the solo, I kind of wanted to piece it together so that it's more laid back, so it takes a little bit longer to put that together.
Because you want it to sound more cohesive?Yeah exactly. There's certain music that I grew up off of that my mom used to play, that my uncle used to play, that sticks in your head and really determines what (music) you like, whether we realize it or not. So something we heard when we were little we might hear today and be like 'why do I like this? Oh my mom played that when I was 7.' So that's how I am piecing my album together, off some old-school, real heartfelt beats. Obviously,
Tonka Boyz 2, when me and Hus together we always working on shit, he's like my best friend, so that's definitely going to come out. But
my shit, I want it to come out how
I want it to come out. It's more or less how Hus is doing his shit, doing it at my own pace so that when it drops it can kind of be like timeless. I don't want to just put that out and it's out and people forget about it. You know there are certain songs on the
Tonka Boyz that even today people are like 'man that motherfucker STILL slappin, I love that
"Laid Back Slap."' I just want my album to be filled with those.
Like "Cuttin It Up"Yeah I did that song in Oregon and they went crazy. They stole my beanie off my head! I had an Oregon beanie on, Oregon Ducks, just showing some love out there. I jumped in the crowd, you know I'm crazy, and they stole my beanie. I was like 'fuck it, I'm just going to act like it's cool.' Then a girl hit me on Facebook, 'oh yeah I stole your beanie, if you want it back it's cool. I just wanted it, I got excited!'
Haha so you didn't get it back?Nah I let her have it. That's the type of dude I am. I do it for the fun and love of it. A lot of people they got different motives, they trying to get rich off this shit. Me, personally, I'm really a hustla, I really know how to put some bread on the table regardless. Even when I met Dre, I was fucking with the car shit. I restore old school classics. I'll find something, like I found a '69 Chevelle drop the other day and I'm about to go get that next week. And I've got a 396 on the engine stand already, because I rebuild motors and shit myself too.
Oh really?Hands on, I really do that shit. Like I be putting that shit together and put it online and have various buyers come from out of state. I had a guy come from Sydney, Australia to buy one of my
Stingray Vettes the other day. So I really fuck with it so tough to where that I'm not relying on this (music) for money, but I have a passion for it because of what I was brought up in. I feel like I've got to do it, everywhere I go people are like 'bruh when is the next one coming?' and I'm like 'it's coming bro.' It's just a love and I have fun with it and I feel like when you have fun with something you can tell you're having fun with it and it comes off in the song. Rather than just trying to be hard or trying to be this or that, I'm just having fun.
So the car stuff, is that what...That's how me and Hus really fuck with it. He is a car dude. I met Hus through Dre. We was at the house one day and Hus was up there, he was on the run at the time from his case and I was up there, just a young dude, and we was sleeping on the floor and shit, just young dudes trying to get on and be around the nig. Dre was like 'yall niggas go get some food or something' and I had my car,
a 96 Impala on candy brandy wine on deuces, and I took Hus to go get some food and we was just choppin it up and we just clicked. We was two different type of nigs, but the car shit was always in us. He was always the type of nigga who was swangin his shit and as soon as he got in my car I started doing a little *makes the sound of doing donuts* and he was like 'bro don't be doing that type of shit when I'm in the car!' and I was like 'bro, I got this, it's good.' Basically I'm saying we was similar type nigs and we really started fucking with it. It's that whole car culture that has always been one of my loves and kept me out of trouble, keep me out of the bullshit.
1958 Chevrolet Corvette
What is your dream car? If you could have any car, no matter the cost.Umm...(long thoughtful pause)... it'd have to be an old car, like something so rare...(another thoughtful pause)...I almost had one the other day; a '58 Vette. With a LS6 motor in it, a newer Vette motor in it. Something old as shit that's good on gas with a new motor in it. I like those, they're rare and really respected. I like fast shit, something I can just get up outta there in. I know there is something else I could probably list...I like the '69 convertible Camaro Pace Car with the orange interior. I almost had one too *whistles* I was finna buy one, but this guy outbid me and I was like 'ok man.'
Those are really rare, do you know how many of those exist? (Editor's note: 3,675 is the answer)
Them rare. Them rare. Me an Hus collect old schools, though. That's one of our loves, the old car scene. You can pull up in a Ferrari, but if you pull up in an old school it will get more attention. Just something that you don't see everyday, people will be like 'how did he even get that? Oh he must be drug dealing' and then I burn rubber on their ass.
Haha so can you tell me a little bit more about Tweaker Muzik? I really like the album and can bump it front to back.I appreciate that. I was trying to just make it weird, you know what I mean? When we were doing the beats I was like, 'bruh let's do something different.' I didn't want it to sound like what everyone else is doing. One person I want to mention is my boy Big Cheese, that's the person who did most the beats on
Tweaker Muzik, he's my good friend. The reason I called it
Tweaker Muzik, is because, me personally, I don't do drugs or none of that shit. It's a feeling you get when that beat come on. Say you might be at work chillin, but when you hear something that just grabs you and just turns you into something. That's what I had envisioned for the album. Just that adrenaline rush you get when you hear your favorite song, or just music period, it just turn you into something else. It goes back to our moms, say if they vacuuming or cleaning up the house they might have their jam on and they just *imitates dancing while vacuuming.* They tweakin' right there, whether they know it or not! That's my vision for the album, people might be like 'are they doing drugs?' but nah it's just a feeling.
Yeah it's interesting because "tweaker" has such a negative connotation. Like white trash dudes smoking a bunch of meth.Yeah I was just trying to reinvent it as a feeling from music. I don't promote none of that shit because I don't do none of that shit. I like to keep my mind clear, because I've got to stay alert. If my mind is gone then there's just no money. I'm gonna be hurting. The difference between us and a lot of other musicians is like I'm not the type to be trying to be like *pretends to hold up stacks* 'yeah nigga hunid thousand!' I might have that, but I'm not going to present that, because that ain't really nothing at the end of the day! I got billionaire partners in L.A. that is ballin out of this world to where I'm like 'damn, we really just peas.' There's always something bigger than us.
Yeah it can get pretty boring when rappers are always like 'look how much money I got.'Yeah it gets old. I try not to even listen to rap.
Really?I mean I might listen to what's on the radio to see what they playing, but I try not to listen to other rappers from around here because I don't want to be influenced by accident to where I'm writing something the same as they said that I picked up subliminally. I try to listen to old shit. Like 60's old school R&B jazz, really throwback shit.
Like what artists?Damn I want to say, but I can't tell all my secrets (laughs). You know who I like? From the early 80's I've been listening to this group from the U.K. called
Loose Ends. My mom used to play them when she was taking me to school and I was like 'it's cool,' I wasn't trippin', but now I'm like 'my mom had some good taste!' I sampled two songs off my main album from them.
I've been listening to
Isaac Hayes...
Al B. Sure! That
"Won't Slide" is an Al B. Sure! sample. Just laid back shit that gets you in another zone chillin. I like
Marvin Gaye and
Patrice Rushen, she was kinda like an Alicia Keyes of the 80's, she played all her instruments herself and sang. She was doing everything, she was dope! I like
Angela Winbush. Shit like that, you gonna hear it and feel it, some real soulful feel. My new album is on that hype, them type of beats.
Does the new album have a title yet?I'm thinking about calling it
Cold Lamp Loungin', I'm just chillin, cold lampin'. I'm thinking about doing something (for the cover) like me with one of my old schools at the dinner table, like you think it's my bitch, but nah it's my car.
Sounds romantic!Yeah, 'I love you, I'mma take care of you girl.'
*Everyone laughs*Some different shit, you know what I'm saying? It's got like 13 or 14 tracks, I'm just trying to see if I want to get a couple features on it, because it's just me all the way on it right now. I'm thinking about having Hus on one of them and I might get Roach on one of them and that's it.
I like how Tweaker Muzic is not too long. So many rap albums are like 80 minutes.Yeah, sometimes that gets boring. I was just trying to make it in and out, like ok you hear what's going on and then we outta there. Then you wait for the next one, because we thinking about doing a part two...When I got off the tour it kind of opened my eyes to how a lot of Bay artists, they don't be getting out of the Bay a lot. It's cool to be out here, but there are a lot of other areas that fuck with the Bay. I just feel like the Bay needs to unite, everyone feels like they so big, but they really ain't shit at the end of the day. That's one thing I got from Dre, he kept humble and stayed working. He got in there and made music, every beat that people didn't like, 'oh y'all don't like this one?' He'd make a hit out of it. I just got out of that that you should be yourself and have fun. If I'm not in the right environment I try not to even record, it's just a wast of time. I've got to feel the vibe.
Have you been out to Kansas City at all?Not since that happened (Mac Dre was murdered). Jacka has been out there and he was telling me 'bro you gotta go out there, next time we go out there come with us.' I plan on going out there, but ever since that shit happened it's always been in the back of my mind.
Were you in Kansas City when Mac Dre was killed?Yeah. I was coming up. I was Dre's hypeman. I was giggin, doing my thing. So it's kind of different for me. The memory is still there, it hurts still. But at the same time I know there's a lot of people who love us out there, on twitter and facebook they always hit me up like 'we fuck with you bro.' I see they still fuck with us real tough, but it's hard to just forget that. That shit really changed a lot of things.
When that happened, in 2004, that was when I was first really starting to listen to Mac Dre.That was when he was starting to really take off. He was in his mode, he kicked all his hoes out and really focused on music. Like 'man I need to put 100 into this music' and that was when we started doing hella shows and he was like 'cuddie I need you at every show, show them how we fuck with it with the giggin and shit.' I was a young nig, I was like 18 at the time, so I was like 'bruh let's do it!' Even to this day, it's crazy how his name is still big. That's one of my jobs, to keep his name going.
So how do you feel about the way Thizz handled Mac Dre's material after his death. Like re-releasing a lot of his songs with different titles and calling them original tracks?
Yeah I personally had talks with some of the people involved with that and I was like 'man that's kinda crazy how they doing all of that.' They seen that too, because they seen the feedback. Me personally, I didn't agree with how they handled that. You've got to realize that when Dre was alive he was the dude in charge who brought everyone together and when that main guy isn't there no more, the sheep kind of scattered a little bit. People think they know what they were doing, but it wasn't the best decision. I kind of separated myself when I saw some of the things they were doing. What had me angry is people who had Mac Dre stamps on their album cover who didn't even know him. I wasn't really feeling it. Regardless, I'mma keep it lit for the nig and keep reppin for the cuddie, because he was our friend. It was unfortunate how all that went, but I know the people who did that learned from that experience too.
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So let me ask you, what do you think is the correct spelling of this word: "Cuddie" or "Cutty"?I say "c-u-d-d-i-e", either way people know what it is, but when I hear "c-u-t-t-y" I think of the car.
Oh yeah, like a Cutlass.Yeah. I got that word from growing up in the Crest, everyone calling each other cuddie. It's just like 'cuddie this, cuddie that' and when I hooked up with Hus he was like 'nigga where I'm from we say cuddie too, we been sayin' that for a while.' I was like 'for real?' When I went to Spokane, WA this little 20 year old girl who was a fan was like 'yeah man we really fuck with you cuddie, it's treal out here cuddie. We say all your slang.' I was like 'wow!'
Hahaha if my girlfriend started talking like that I think it would be a bit offputting.*Laugh* Yeah like, 'who you been hanging around?'
So Tonka Boyz came out in 2008 and my favorite song was "Rims is Olda Than Me." That was four years ago, though. Are your rims still older than you?Yeah yeah I'm getting older. They are about the same age as me. I got an old school Caprice and I just ordered some 28s for it. Pretty soon I'm about to go back to some old school rally wheels. I'm still in that car shit though, I think it's a real blessing to be involved with that. I really respect the mechanics that work 9 to 5. Me and Hus we go to Pick-n-Pull because there might be a part in there for an old school that you can't find anywhere else. People see us in there and can't believe it's us, but that's the difference with us. We down to earth and at your local Pick-n-Pull.
Haha well I wish I had a cool car, but I drove up here in my 2001 Volvo.*Laughs* I fuck with Volvo. I fuck with every car!
So I was wondering how you got the nickname Cilantro?That boy Hus gave it to me. We be making up names for each other all the time and one day he was just like 'bruh your name is Cilantro.'
There was no context for that name?Nah, but I was like 'fuck it, that's my name!' We are just spontaneous like that and just ran with it and started saying it on songs and shit.
So does DB The General's voice kind of stress you out sometimes?*Laughs*
Because it does for me.You know a lot of people say that. With his voice you either love it or hate it. When I first heard him I didn't know who he was. In some of my songs from a long time ago for my adlibs I would do them high-pitched and I was like 'this be sounding like me! Whoever do this is my nig!' He sounded like me going high in his regular voice and when I met him I saw how smart and militant he is. I fuck with him.
So let's say someone has never heard of you, is there a favorite song of yours that would be the song that you would tell them to check out.Umm...hmmm...I've got to think. I be forgetting about all the songs I've done....
Can I tell you the right answer?Yeah go ahead.
"Sittin' Tonka"Yeah ok, I forgot about that song. I've done so many songs. I think my answer might be
"Laid Back Slap." That was one of the first songs that I did, it was on that laid back tip, I feel like it had some mass appeal. I don't know, nowadays, I think a lot differently, I really don't make the same songs that I did back then. Maybe some of this new shit I'm about to drop... You know what, I like "Hustle" That was my first rap.
Oh I didn't know that.Yeah. I like that one because that was my first time ever rapping and now over the years you can hear the difference, how much more comfortable I am now. But I would say that one because Dre was on it.
I remember watching the video for that on 23109: Exhibition of Speed a long time ago.See that's how I really got started in everything, with that DVD. I put that together.
Oh you put that DVD together?Yeah yeah, me and Justin Lomax. We had a video production company called On Point Production. Justin was the videographer and the editor and I was the producer. That's how me and Dre came together. I was like 'bro I need you on my DVD' and I showed him the preview and he was like 'I see what you finna do' and I introduced him to Justin and he was like 'cuddie I got this idea it's called
Treal TV' and I was like 'ok you got some footage?' He showed me some little footage and it was him filming himself in a Benz like 'yeah man, this is Treal TV!' I was like 'nah cuddie, we can have you looking better.'
L to R: Mac Dre, B-Luv & Justin Lomax
That's crazy, so that's how you met Dre?Yeah and shit just evolved from there. So I hooked him up with Justin and we sat down and chopped it up and started throwing out ideas and Justin filmed the DVD. We just started filming every show and put everything together and that was
Treal TV. Dre showed me love on it because I helped put it together with the 'B-Luv doing the real Thizz Dance,' letting people know that I was the co-originator of the dance. I loved him for that.
Thanks to B-Luv for meeting up with us. He is a super friendly guy and we all had a really good time. Say hi to him on twitter and be sure to support all his dope projects.